the "PROF Replys
Well ya know , you have totally hit the jackpot when it comes to the
"Bottom Line" insight on the "Wilderness Conference" poster! As I posess
not only a copy of each but progressives as well as the original
""PLATE"" o what has become (Finally) known as the FIRST
PRINTING of this fabulous poster. Keeping in mind, that this piece isn't
even for a concert!
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Here's what I think,...
I know: Stanley Mouse says the grey/silver background version is the
first printing, but aside from his recollection (which may be selective,
as he has said he hates the yellow version), there is no apparent reason
to believe that the grey version is the first printing.
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"Prof" Replys
Well I can certainly say to you that Stan's memory IS selective at
times and ya just can't trust his opinion as fact all the time! However in
this paticular case he is 100% correct. And I can say that I am 99.9% sure
of myself! I have discussed this issue with the best of 'em (Jacaber, Eric
King, plus several other major players) and at conversations end I usually
am agreed with, after going over the FACTS one by one!
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The yellow background version by Bindweed is identified as the first by
the Sierra Club, I am told, but I have no direct testimony to that.
"Prof says" NOT!!
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Now it gets alittle complicated. Berkeley Bonaparte, on p. 84 of AOR,
claim to have done something on a Mouse Sierra Club poster and they list
this poster in a 1967 catalog in a list of mostly known reprints.
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the "Prof" says
Who really cares what Berkeley Bonaparte thinks on this subject, they
NEVER had anything to do with the printing of this piece in the first
place!
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They must be refering to the grey version, but, it has no printer's
marking, which would be uncharacteristic of Bonaparte products. And
finally, Bonaparte says that they started as a mailorder business around
1-1-67 and that their first non-political poster was Griffin's "In God We
Trust". The Wilderness Conference was in early April of '67. So the
question is...do you know exactly when the Griffin piece was done? Knowing
that date could (underline could) resolve the issue once and for all. Or
perhaps you know something else that will help. My own view is that it is
unlikely that the grey, or Bonaparte, version is the first printing. I
don't think they would have gotten the job as a venture that had just
started in business...but I can't conclusively demonstrate it. Please let
me know your views.
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The story as I percieve it to be is based intirely on when and what was
in the stash of over 70 plates that were aquired by me aprox. four years
ago! Including the plates to FD#s26, 27, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35,
36, 38, 39, 40, Human Be In by Mouse, Edwardian Ball, Wilderness
Conference. (only to name afew.......Phew!) ALL of which were in the
same batch as well as being all first printings.
Secondly, when it came time to reprint the poster a desision was made
by Bindweed Press to get their acknowledgement for the piece, being that
they missed the boat the first time around. So they added their name at
the bottom. Now if they had put it on in the first place, they sure as
hell wouldn't have removed it the second time around!
The last fact to make this case is:
"CONTRAST".......... If you look at the green/gray/silver
(whatever) poster, it is not as easily seen as the reprint in yellow. This
decision was made after-the-fact in order to see it better. Whether or not
you like it better. It would have NEVER been the oppisite, Yellow.......
then less contrast to Green. There you have it! Now I feel very
confident in my insight to this question to which was the first printing
and invite anyone with evedence to the contrary.
Here is a tasty visual treat, The Original
Plate, and a hand painted poster by one of the artists of the poster,
Stanley Mouse.